Posted: 8:17 pm Tuesday, July 29th, 2014

Urban Meyer gets it wrong on Tim Tebow 

By Jeff Schultz

    Somebody tell Urban Meyer why Tim Tebow wears a suit, not a uniform. (AP)

Somebody tell Urban Meyer why Tim Tebow wears a suit, not a uniform. (AP)

It was never my intention to write another blog about Tim Tebow or why he’s not cut out to be an NFL quarterback (still). But then Urban Meyer told the assembled media at Big Ten Media Days, “I still don’t get that part of it. He’s the second-most efficient passer ever to play college football.” And that sound was me slapping my forehead.

If you ever wondered whether Meyer could work in the personnel department — or coach — in the NFL, there’s your answer: no.

Tebow obviously was a great college quarterback at Florida and remains one of the greatest college players of all time. But there’s a reason he hasn’t had a football job since being released by the New York Jets following the 2012 season. His skills don’t translate to the NFL level.

Most observers not drunk on TimmyAde understand this. Meyer isn’t one of them. The fact he supports his case for Tebow with the player’s career passer efficiency rating at Florida says it all.

Here is a link to the list of the top 250 quarterbacks in career passing efficiency. You’ll look at many names and wonder, “Hey, whatever happened to him? And him? And him?”

To save you some time, there are only four quarterbacks in the top 25 all-time who are/were proven quarterbacks: Andrew Luck (Stanford) at ninth, Robert Griffin III at 17th, Chad Pennington at 20th and Jim McMahon at 25th. To be fair, some players on the list can’t be judged yet.

I won’t copy the entire top-250 list but here’s the top 50, via Sports-Reference.com:

The point: while a college passing efficiency rating — which differs from the NFL formula — hardly precludes somebody from being an effective pro quarterback, it just doesn’t carry a lot of weight.

That’s something Meyer either doesn’t understand or doesn’t want to publicly acknowledge about his favorite pupil. Even if Tebow were to be considered a borderline player worthy of one of the 96 NFL quarterback roster jobs (three per team), the fact he brings a fan and media circus with him likely hurts his cause.

And so, instead of preparing for a season in an NFL camp, Tebow preps for the college football season in a climate controlled studio of the SEC Network. And for that, he’s eminently qualified.

 Some pre-vacation blogs and columns (free links)
– MyAJC: Braves’ best postseason hope is starting pitching
– MyAJC: Steven Jackson: ‘I kind of believed my own hype’
– Blog: Poll: Falcons open camp, what’s your playoff pick?
– MyAJC: Falcons open with more questions than buzz
– MyAJC: Georgia still recruiting too many of wrong kids
– Blog: Giants take a chance on Dan Uggla
– Blog: June Jones whiffs on spring football idea
– MyAJC: Back to reality: Payne a nice pick for Hawks
– MyAJC: Hawks’ quest: LeBron, Carmelo or anybody elite
– Blog: LeBron, Carmelo opt out: Are Hawks an option?
– Blog: It’s ‘Mark Emmert Appreciation Night’! (sort of)
– MyAJC: Soccer has our attention: Will we stay this time?
– MyAJC: Times change, we change: ‘Redskins’ have to go
– Blog: Braves out of first place — not that they deserved to be there
– MyAJC: Nats, trip may force Braves to make a move
– Blog: Possible Braves’ moves: Bethancourt up, B.J. to bench?
– Blog: Is it time to drop Freeman in batting order?
– MyAJC: Is La Stella that Prado-like spark Braves need?
111 comments
BrianMcauley
BrianMcauley

Journalists are always the most ill informed people of all when it comes to who is greatest. This guy is no different. Tebow can play in the NFL. The game against Pittsburgh proved it. He can pass, he can throw, he would of held up way better than old man Manning. The only reason why he didn't play on the Jets is because Gus Bradley is an incompetent coach. As long as he's coaching, that team is going nowhere fast. 

macia
macia

Tim Tebow has a career NFL passer rating of 75.3. That is higher than the 2013 passer ratings of both Joe Flacco and Eli Manning.


If Tim Tebow's 75.3 passer rating means he's unqualified to play in the NFL, how were Joe Flacco and Eli Manning able to play in 2013 with lower passer ratings?


Oh, yeah, Tebow is a committed Christian; that's why.

macia
macia

Tim Tebow has a career NFL passer rating of 75.3. That is higher than the 2013 passer ratings of Joe Flacco and Eli Manning.


If Tim Tebow's 75.3 passer rating means he's unqualified to play in the NFL, how were Joe Flacco and Eli Manning able to play in 2013 with lower passer ratings?


Oh, yeah, Tebow is a committed Christian. That's why.

klsfriend
klsfriend

Uh, Jeff, if you're going to list Robert Griffin III then you really should include #1 on the list - Sam Bradford. Both have been hurt but Bradford is at least, if not more proven in the NFL than Griffin.

Drexel-Gal
Drexel-Gal

Schultz, like all Liberals, cannot stand devout Christians ... especially those who are sincere in their beliefs.  That is all this is.  Nothing more.  If you can't see through it, you haven't been paying attention.

vallo
vallo

Oops. ..."he brings a fan an media circus with him likely hurts his cause".   Off to sensitivity training Mr. Schultz

stewart210
stewart210

This is Meyer saying I got a lot out of the guy because I'm a genius.

ColdSplash
ColdSplash

RG3 is far from bring a "proven" NFL quarterback.

LakeDawg
LakeDawg

Of course, you are right Jeff. Most of Tebow's support is due to his political/social stances, not his ability. He was a great leader and a good athlete, but he is not an NFL caliber QB. Its easy to have a high efficiency rating when you're throwing swing passes to future NFLers and wounded ducks to wide open WRs, because every team stacks the box to stop those aforementioned swing passes and the admittedly strong running of Tebow. I predicted on this forum that Tebow would be out of the NFL in 2 years when he was drafted. I was close.

almmanduane75
almmanduane75

And there are those that aren't qualified to be writers and player personnel guys as well.


Proof of that are the idiots running the bottom dwellers that also say Tebow can't play in the NFL.


Seems to me if they were good at what they do, their teams would have a better record.


Just sayin.

redleg24
redleg24

Meyer has probably gotten it right more times than you have.


PS.  There are many just above average quarterbacks that have been very successful in the NFL.  Two or three from UGA.  You can be a good QB in the NFL with a great line and good receivers.

slydawg
slydawg

What the heck does Cam Newton and Vick have to do with Tebow? I wish they had QB coaches since the age of 12 like most of the top , excuse me, Caucasian QB's in the NFL. They may have learned the fundamentals of the position at a much younger age before they cashed a check. Vince Young too. Tebow not only had this privilege, but was also given multiple opportunities to play QB at the pro level. Just sayin!!!!

The_SAWB
The_SAWB

Also, why do I have to log in to different sites – AJC.com, myajc.com, AccessAtlanta.com, whattheblank.com???? Come on AJC get your act together and eliminate multiple logins for paying customers. Check out WSJ.com paid subscribers log in one time and get access to everything.


Sorry about the rant…

The_SAWB
The_SAWB

His hype factor was higher than his talent factor. If he had been some unknown from Slippery Rock he’d probably be a backup on some NFL squad, but no one wants the media distraction that he would bring.

midwaycva41
midwaycva41

He should have swallowed his pride and worked out at tight end, as various NFL types suggested.  With his build and athleticism, he had a real good chance to make at TE in the NFL.

GeorgeJetsen
GeorgeJetsen

Injuries aside, #18 doesn't bode well for Aaron Murray's NFL career.

bulldawg14
bulldawg14

It really saddens me to see Tebow going through this.

For people to talk negatively about the "media circus" that Tebow would bring with him when you got guys like Michael Sam that bring an even bigger circus while getting a paycheck almost exclusively because of the nature of the specific circus. I honestly don't hate or dislike homosexuals, but as a conservative christian, I'd much rather my kids watch the "circus" that is Tim Tebow than the one that features Michael Sam completely disregarding his teams privacy (reference to the documentary Sam signed off on) in order to promote the homosexual agenda and IMO, have the media there as big brother making sure he didn't have to take his social lumps as a rookie in the locker room.

As for Tebow as a football player, I'll be honest, I don't know off the top of my head how many interceptions he's thrown, or how many open receivers he's missed. The only stat I know of and that owners should really care about when taking a chance on him is 9-7 with a playoff win. He's a winner, period. You can't measure the intangibles he brings to the table: the will to win, the inspiration of teammates (on both sides of the ball), the leadership, etc. Sorry guys but IMO, there is no way every single backup in the league brings more to the table both on and off the field than Tim Tebow and I think the fact that he doesn't have a job speaks volumes about the moral state of this country.

MikeS777
MikeS777

Honestly, I think there's a lot of people that just want Tim to fail.  Maybe it's his nice guy image.  Maybe it's his Christian faith.  Whatever it is, I have seen a lot of QBs stay in the league for a lot longer having done a lot less than what Tim accomplished in just two years in Denver.

In two seasons, he goes 9-7 as a starter with a playoff win in which he threw for over 300 yards against the Steelers.  Under Orton, the Broncos went 4-14 in the remaining games.  That was Orton's second starting job.  Orton was terrible in Chicago which is why they swapped him for Cutler with Denver.

Yet Kyle Orton has stayed in the league and just got released by the Cowboys.  Brady Quinn was the backup to Orton in Denver ahead of Tebow...he's still in the league playing for St. Louis.  Mark Sanchez is still in the league at Philly after several bad years in New York.  On and on.

Tebow hasn't even had the luxury of a bad year yet, and no one will pick him up.  That's the part I don't get.  Your kidding yourself if you think these NFL rosters are loaded with QBs ready to step in and lead a team to the playoffs.  The list of 2nd and 3rd string QBs is full of guys that have had multiple opportunities to start and failed miserably.

All Urban is saying is that Tim deserves the same chance these other guy have gotten.

TampGator1
TampGator1

Bigger question that needs answering:  Is Tim Tebow still a virgin?  If so, the boy needs to get married.   

MikeS777
MikeS777

Actually the Johnny Manziel saga in Cleveland will be interesting to watch.  Here's another guy who basically thrived on instinct in college.  Yes, like Vick and Newton, he has a better arm than Tebow.  But like all three of those QBs, he's at his best when the play breaks down and his instincts take over.  If Cleveland tries to bottle that up in the pocket, Manziel may struggle just like these other guys did.

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@redleg24 

Who are the 2 or 3 "average" QBs from UGA who have been "very successful" in the NFL?

thebucket
thebucket

@slydawg  Not sure you know much about Tim Tebow's upbringing. His parents were missionaries and I have yet to meet anyone who made a lot of money on the mission field. They weren't dirt poor, but they aren't rich either.

RangeRover
RangeRover

@slydawg

Always the race card...

The NFL uses this tool called the Wonderlic test that measures intelligence, a key ingredient to be successful at the most cognitively demanding position in professional sports.  There's a reason both Vick and Newton scored below average intelligence, and Vince Young, who is dumb as a box of rocks, had one of the lowest scores in history.  This is also why Jeff George scored so low; he's also dumb as a box of rocks.

Look it up.  Recent Super Bowl winning QB's have been scoring in the 30's (average score is 25 out of a possible 50).

This isn't about "caucasian."  This is about the intelligence, coupled with talent, necessary to quarterback a Super Bowl champion. Some have both, some have one.

TampGator1
TampGator1

@bulldawg14 


I seriously doubt Jesus Christ would label himself as a "conservative Christian" if he were walking around preaching his gospel today.  And, most likely, he would be in your conservative, right wing churches tossing money and chairs around and not drinking any of your "Tea."

MikeS777
MikeS777

@bulldawg14 Funny thing about that "circus" Tebow brings...it filled the stands in Denver, sold a lot of jerseys, and most importantly elevated the play of the rest of the team.  The defense, the offensive line, the skill position guys...all of them elevated their play to help Denver get the playoffs that year.  Like I said in another comment, Champ Bailey said the defense knew all they had to do was keep it close and give Tebow a shot in the 4th.  They knew he could win it.

Snagglepuss
Snagglepuss

@MikeS777 


Maybe IF Urban becomes an NFL coach he will make Tebow his QB. Just like David Greene and to a certain degree, Danny Weurfel, it does not guarantee all great college QBs will be successful in the NFL.


Personally I believe Tebow could make a very good RB or TE but that isn't what he wants and I respect that.

TampGator1
TampGator1

@MikeS777 


Belicheck gave Tim Tebow a full look at New England last year and released him.  And believe me, Belicheck gave Tebow more than a fair chance to prove he could play the QB position in the NFL, and he proved to Belicheck that he could not.  Time for Tebow to move on in broadcasting and as a Christian evangelist.  He will do those two jobs a lot better than playing QB in the NFL.  That is, unless Tebow wants to learn a new position in the NFL and I am sure many NFL teams would give him a tryout in that case....based strictly on his athletic skills alone.  

TampGator1
TampGator1

@MikeS777 


Vick and Newton have not struggled (Vick did off the field).  Both have made multi millions playing QB successfully in the NFL.  I have a feeling Manziel will as well.  He is a born leader, on the field.

Snagglepuss
Snagglepuss

@RangeRover 


Tom Matte, a Baltimore Colt RB, was a Super Bowl winning QB. He was forced to move to QB because  ALL other Colt QBs were injured.

TampGator1
TampGator1

@RangeRover 


Since you have both (being an Ivy League graduate) and are an expert on both, why the heck were you not a Super Bowl winning QB instead of being on the taxi squad for all those glorious NFL years? 

slydawg
slydawg

What does wonderlic score have to do with my comment you idiot? Seems like you score would be low too. Football ain't rocket science. Practice, process, and redundancy are the rules of thumb. Argue with someone on your dumb level.

RangeRover
RangeRover

And the same applies to the "caucasian" Tebow...nice kid with exceptional physical ability but not very bright.

RangeRover
RangeRover

@TampGator1

Is anyone surprised that one who labels himself a "communications legend" is an utter, unabated liberal?  Always attacking faith and Christianity, you are one vile human being...

bulldawg14
bulldawg14

@TampGator1 @bulldawg14 You're right. He would definitely relate more to the baby killing, homosexual supporting, free loading left wingers than any of those dang dirty conservatives with their country accents and their bible reading and their family values. Makes perfect sense. 


By the way, you should try the tea... tastes a lot better than that obama kool-aid that's rotting America from the inside out.

TampGator1
TampGator1

@MikeS777 


But the truth is he could not win it in the first, second, and third quarters.....and that is what really good NFL QBs do......and not just in the 4th quarter on a last second play.  And believe me, I am a Tebow fan.  But he simply is not a good NFL QB.  I thought he would become one, but I was dead wrong about that prediction. He is going to make a very good game day announcer for the SEC Network, however.

MikeS777
MikeS777

@TampGator1 @MikeS777Those two made multi millions before they even stepped on the field thanks to their college careers.  Vick and Newton have not done well in the pocket.  Vick in particular has struggled in the West Coast offense.  He was driving Jim Mora crazy in Atlanta, and lost his starting job in Philly for the same reason.  He just isn't comfortable with it.  His instincts are in his athletic ability, not in making reads.

Newton has struggled a lot in Carolina as well.  The defense carried them this past year.

Domina8r
Domina8r

@slydawg This why you sit here posting nonsense and couldn't get a try at being a ball boy on a midget football team.  Sly?  I don't thinks so.

TampGator1
TampGator1

@RangeRover 


Tebow is an intelligent person and was an excellent student at Florida. What a "dumb" post.  

TampGator1
TampGator1

@RangeRover 


Spending 27 years in corporate communications and advertising hardly makes me a legend.  That is the label you pinned on me, not me.  And who says I am attacking Christianity? But I do NOT have a high opinion of most who call themselves "conservative Christians." Hate usually rules their minds.  And they are usually very judgmental....and they like calling people who disagree with them....."vile".....and other such names in the name of God. 

CyclePath
CyclePath

@MikeS777 Newton has struggled because of Carolina's porous offensive line, which has caused him to be hit and sacked at a high rate. His pocket presence improved dramatically in 2013. He was also....

First player with 10,000 passing yards and 1,000 rushing yards in his first three seasons.

First player in NFL history with 50 passing TDs and 25 Rushing TDs in his first three seasons.

First player in NFL history with 4,000+ pass yards and 10+ rush TDs in a season

First player in NFL history with 4,000+ pass yards and 500+ rush yards in a season

Second most combined passing & rushing yards through his first 37 starts in NFL history (behind Kurt Warner).

Second player in NFL history with 7,500+ pass yards and 40+ pass TDs in first two seasons, joining Peyton Manning ('99).

Highest average yards of total offense, career (293.7)

....and there's a lot more.

I agree, Carolina has a great defense, but they didn't carry the team alone.

Snagglepuss
Snagglepuss

@TampGator1 @RangeRover 


Religion has NOTHING to do with football but is often used by the weak-minded to help their case when they don't actually have the knowledge, experience or maturity to keep their mouths shut and let people make their own judgment of them. If you are good, bad or in between people wlll find it out. Tebow and Mark Richt have led by example and do not spend all their spare time flaunting their Christianity as if it is some vaunted ordeal they went through and passed with flying colors!!!!!!!!!!

Snagglepuss
Snagglepuss

@TampGator1 @bulldawg14 


Tampa is right!!!!! The NFL coaches,scouts, General Managers, etc. know a hell of a lot more about  what will win NFL games and keep them employed than any NFL Expert Wannabe on here. If this was not true some of you dumb a$$es would be employed in the NFL and Jesus, along with God, does NOT get involved in football because Tebow and Mark Richt would never lose a game UNLESS..............................................they played/coached against each other!!!!! Then who would God/Jesus want to win???


Some of you Second Guessers, Monday morning QBs and Football Expert Wannabes need to just STFU. Your ignorance

is showing and you probably don't have your Singewides paid for!!